Le Mans 24hrs Photo Extravaganza

"RWS Motorsport" (rwsmotorsport) 06/17/2015 at 13:34 • Filed to: Le Mans

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Wow. Le Mans is a special event. I’ve been to Spa, the Nurburgring and Silverstone for their respective 24hrs, but none of them come close to this in terms of a spectacle. I would implore anyone reading, if you can get there, go. 2016 dates are already announced and its such a special event it is well worth any amount of effort to get there.

Enough words for now. High Res versions of all the pictures below are on my Flickr: !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

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This is the view from the banking inside Beasajour campsite. Not bad for 5 minutes from the tent.

VERY hot brakes were a recurring theme for the Nissans

As a Brit, I feel obliged to love the Astons, all 5 of them.

Thats not to say I’m not a Porsche fan. Far from it. The Stuttgart make should never be overlooked

Especially when the 911s big brother is this beast.

Summer Sunsets were pretty epic every night.

The LMP2s were always popping and banging down through the gears. The noise of a proper race car.

Notice the LMP1H dont have glowing brakes. I guess the hybrid systems are so efficent the brakes don’t get nearly as hot.

Where as the LMP1Ls brakes were glowing like everyone else.

Last sunset shot. Well from Wednesday anyway...

The speed every car took launching out of the Forest Esses was something else.

Retro Nissan livery = WIN!

Lots of people there for a Qualifying session on a Thursday. In fact, every part of the event was always really busy. Total weekend attendance - 263,500.

The two new SMP BR01s running in formation.

Tet Rouge, the home of Track Limits warnings

I’m a sucker for a ‘vette

AF Corse and one of their half dozen or so Ferraris.

Unpopular opinion time: I loved the Art Car livery. I think it looks really cool.

Sadly, fence is an ever present scourge of the Motorsport Photographer.

“Nothing good ever happens in Morning Warmup” - Hugh Chamberlin. The Larbre guys found that out the hard way. Not the way to start the Saturday.

Double trouble.

They know how to make it a big event, I’ll say that for Le Mans.

The madness begins. Prepare for 24 hours of fun.

SO MANY PEOPLE!

All 3 Nissans started, and got on with putting some miles under their wheels.

The team AAI Porsche 997 was the oldest car on the grid, but ran steadily throughout P & Q.

About the only time the 47 Oreca wasnt leading was for the first handful of laps.

The Toyotas just weren’t fast enough. But they ran like clockwork (bar Ant Davidson getting slightly to close to a Ferrari in the Porsche Curves)

Safety cars only compressed the action.

More Arty goodness.

#MurphysMen had a torrid Wednesday, with 3 corners missing from the car after Practise. Somehow they got the car out at 23.45 on Weds evening for some qualifying. Got their troubles out of the way early, and had a solid run through the race.

The 1 and only (works) Corvette. One bullet in the gun, but as Radio Le Mans pointed out, thats one hell of a bullet.

I like different cars, and the Viper was one of my favourites for the whole race.

Sadly, about as close as the Nissans ever got to the R18s.

The crowd didn’t really thin until 7 or 8pm, so was still very busy during the early running.

Nissans were running VERY low ride heights. So lots of sparks throughout the race.

Hunting in a pack.

Variety is the spice of LMP2.

Didnt manage to ever get all 3 Nissans in 1 shot, so 2 outta 3 aint bad.

The Larbre boys got their Corvette back together for the race, but there was more damage under the skin, and sadly it made it into the dusk hours before succumbing to a gearbox leak.

Slow and steady might win the race (spoiler alert, it didnt)

Even under safety car conditions the Aston was still hustling.

Audi had 3 or 4 areas like this for fans. The marketing spend for Audi, Porsche and Nissan must’ve been immense, where as Toyota had a very understated effort.

New Ferris Wheel location was entirely popular with the regulars.

However, Porsche have invested a huge amount in the race and the track, and placed their new Experience Centre where the wheel used to stand.

Dirty Corvette

Porsche leaving Porsche Curves. Ironically one of the points the Audi was the strongest car.

LMP2 lights are bright. Who knew...

Overtaking round the outside on a flat out corner in the Porsche Curves. Because thats just how much aero grip the LMP1s have.

And then it got dark.

Another stunning sunset (which I mostly missed, whoops)

The racing didnt really get any calmer as the light faded.

Aston still very distinctive in the dark.

Safety car bunched the whole pack up as the last of the light disappeared.

The morning after the night before...

Dirty racecars = the best racecars.

Sadly the Sunrise was muted by a very grey cloudy sky, but as it rose higher the colour returned.

out at Mulsanne (after 2 buses and lots of waiting)

With the sun fully up, the remaining cars were still at maximum attack.

Considering this car had 3 corners knocked off it early in the race, it ran faultlessly from then on.

Viper still running, though it faltered in the final hours, with a transmission issue (I think)

All the American Muscle left running at the point. You could hear this pair coming from a way off.

LMP2 presented a large traffic issue for the P1s.

Running like clockwork. Slow clockwork, but clockwork nonetheless.

Whoops. tired brain at Indianapolis.

And the poor marshals who came very close to being squished by a slightly, umm, less than careful extraction. This car won in GTE Am. Not bad considering this was at about 11am.

You can get VERY close to the cars at Arnage.

The Vette having its lat driver change.

With 35 mins to go, the GTE Am leader made its first mistake. And race over :(.

And the Winners. Im not sure if they are pleased or not.

RallyWrench > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 13:52

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Wonderful shots, thanks! Working now, I’ll come back & look in more detail later.

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 14:19

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Alpine!!!

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 14:20

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Should’ve been sponsored by Benetton.

Dasupersprint - base trim is enough > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 14:29

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Many, many thanks. All the thanks!

Hot Takes Salesman > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 14:32

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Slow and steady might win the race (spoiler alert, it didnt)

Yeah, really fucking fas t won that race. Porsche was turning 3:17 laps. That's goddamned insane.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 14:50

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So great seeing Vipers at Le Mans.

RWS Motorsport > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 06/17/2015 at 14:51

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Oh yes, I love variety and the V10 of the Vipers is just awesome.

RWS Motorsport > Hot Takes Salesman 06/17/2015 at 14:52

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and 3.17 on Sunday, thats even more insane. Going fast out of the box is one thing. Staying that fast for 24 hours is something truly special.

RWS Motorsport > Wheelerguy 06/17/2015 at 14:53

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Im guessing the AF corse livery department consisted of hmm, we have some red here. lets try another colour. but with an Italian accent.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 14:59

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Awesome shots man! Thank you.

guppysb > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:08

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I am liking the photography. Just out of curiosity, what’s your lens/body/aperture/timing for those high speed shots? If you don’t mind sharing.

Hot Takes Salesman > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:12

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I heard it described as a 24 hour sprint race. That's the pace they were at. These are great times at the (true) pinnacle of racing.

typhoonegator > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:13

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What kind of rig were you using? Shots in the esses were my favorites. Those shots are hard, very pretty work.

RWS Motorsport > typhoonegator 06/17/2015 at 15:18

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Freehand, with a Canon 7D mark ii, and either a 100-400l or a 24-105l lens. I find using a Monopod more difficult for panning, so I just up the shutter speed and put the IS on when I want more clarity.

RWS Motorsport > Hot Takes Salesman 06/17/2015 at 15:18

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Yeah, it absolutely was flat out all the way through the race. Golden Age is the term Radio Le Mans keep using, and I think they are bang on.

RWS Motorsport > guppysb 06/17/2015 at 15:19

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If you follow the link to my Flickr at the top, every photo has the EXIF data, so shows camera, lens, and all the info about the picture.

Lens/body is a Canon 7d Mark ii, and a 100-400l and a 24-105l.

AlleVier > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:20

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Aww, no love for the safety car, but I’m glad to see you got a Manitou in there. Thanks for the great shots.

True > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:21

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Tracy Krohn facing in the, uncharacteristicly, correct direction.

472CID > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:22

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Given there was no free streaming, this is the closest I’m getting to seeing this years race. What happend with the Viper? I don’t think I ever saw it in the standings.

Mhart27 > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:23

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Maybe a Jalopnik/Oppo group trip to LeMans 2016? I’d seriously consider it.

Great pics. Thanks.

ScoobsMcGee > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:27

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Yay! More gorgeous pictures to set as my desktop backgound and prompt my coworkers to ask, “Is that a Lamborghini?”

Seriously, though, thank you!

42CrMo4 > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:27

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Actually, the reason why the Audi, Porsche and Toyotas don’t have glowing brakes is not the hybrid system, but that the brakes are fully enclosed in carbon fiber “brake drums” for more efficient cooling(less drag, less dirty air from the wheels).

guppysb > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:29

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Awesome, thanks!

RWS Motorsport > 42CrMo4 06/17/2015 at 15:29

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Dont the LMP2s have the same ‘cake tin’? or is that just the P1s?

guppysb > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:33

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I am seeing you switch between your iso and timing quite a bit, but your aperture remains around 5.0/5.6. Are you in aperture priority mode on the Canon? Also, are you enabling 3d focal point tracking? That’s the mode on my D90 to follow a fast moving target.

RWS Motorsport > 472CID 06/17/2015 at 15:35

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It ran quite well, but disappeared between 12 and 3. I think i remember hearing from Radio Le Mans that it had a transmission fault, but dont quote me on that. Was running well in GTE am early in the race.

RWS Motorsport > guppysb 06/17/2015 at 15:36

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Im using shutter priority (TV on Canon) and adjusting the shutter speed depending on the pan. I think the Apeture was wide open because I was using a Circular Polarising filter, and ISO was on auto with a Max setting, so free to move around

Clay_T > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:37

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Very hot front brakes.

Seems like the rears are just along for the ride... Must be a weight distribution thing?

Granted, the rears don’t do a lot for braking anyway. But with all the weight up front they may being doing less than anything.

RWS Motorsport > AlleVier 06/17/2015 at 15:37

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I have a shot of the crew cars from Thursday. but none of the safety car sorry :)

RWS Motorsport > True 06/17/2015 at 15:38

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Sadly yes Tracy had one of those races, but massive respect to him. He is out there living the dream.

RWS Motorsport > Clay_T 06/17/2015 at 15:39

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Front engine, Front wheel drive, with a 65% front weight distribution. It had 3 or 4 brake changes through the race.

Clay_T > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:41

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heh... at what point do they just run a Segway and be done with all that clap trap behind the firewall?

RWS Motorsport > Clay_T 06/17/2015 at 15:43

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ha, I wonder if Ben Bowlby considered that. Hes a free thinker so I wouldnt put it past him.

Clay_T > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:43

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Great shots btw, thanks for sharing!

The Troof > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:50

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AMAZING pictures and story. Thanks for much for sharing.

McLarry > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 15:51

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mwoodski > Wheelerguy 06/17/2015 at 15:57

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Oreca!

904 GTS > 42CrMo4 06/17/2015 at 16:03

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Enclosures over carbon brakes are utilized for a better control of their OPTIMUM operating temperature rather than just for more efficient cooling, actually.

icelandr > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 16:03

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How about that Corvette Racing car #64? Love hearing it fire up. Saw them at Laguna as probably the only race I can make this year.

RWS Motorsport > icelandr 06/17/2015 at 16:04

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This is the first time I have seen the works cars, saw the Larbre one at Silverstone in April. I like them, and even more once they celebrated by doing a HUGE burnout on the start finish straight

904 GTS > 472CID 06/17/2015 at 16:09

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Transmission, THE MOST STRESSED COMPONENT of any long-distance race car, gave up, apparently. Since not enough laps completed to be classified, therefore, not listed as finisher, quite unfortunately.

MB > Mhart27 06/17/2015 at 16:10

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I’ve been trying to understand the ticketing/accomodations thing on and off for a few years, I’d love for someone who’s experienced in the ways of the 24h to fill me in. It seems really simple if you’re already in Europe, but exponentially harder if your coming from the States.

SantaRita > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 16:41

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DrScientist > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 16:48

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i thought this guy may have had a stroke. the fox crew were trying to say the car lost grip going over a curb, but i didn’t see anything like that.

the driver isn’t particularly youthful.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?…

juliorobertod > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 16:57

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So phalic

LicensedToDill > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 17:00

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I’ll just leave this here, for America.

Harn > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 17:05

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The Viper Exchange is definitely awesome especially at night :P

RWS Motorsport > 904 GTS 06/17/2015 at 17:14

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to be classified you also have to be running on the last lap, so I think the Viper did make 70% of the winners distance but was officially retired, like the 96 Aston in the penultimate picture.

RWS Motorsport > DrScientist 06/17/2015 at 17:16

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To my untrained eye it looked like he got a touch of oversteer on the entry to the first part of the Ford chicane, and the Astons don’t like going sideways. Once they have lost traction they are heading to an accident. Such a shame that late in the race, for 1 tiny mistake to cost you a class win.

DailyTurismo > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 17:16

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You should have a doctor check out your legs for potential length discrepancy.

RWS Motorsport > mwoodski 06/17/2015 at 17:17

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Courage LC70!

RWS Motorsport > MB 06/17/2015 at 17:18

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If your camping its quite easy. You buy a general entrance ticket per person, a camping pitch which you can share (especially in Beausajour because the Pitches are not marked) and a grandstand or whatever.

Alternatively, speak to Travel Destinations, who are a partner for Radio Le Mans, they will sort you out (for a fee of course)

RWS Motorsport > DailyTurismo 06/17/2015 at 17:19

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Oh no, Le Mans is just much more hilly than it seems on TV ;)

ChrisGTOTT > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 17:39

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Even going back to at least 08 but likely earlier you didn’t typically see the front brakes glowing on at least the R10 TDI is because Audi used aero covers to help keep the brakes in their optimal temperature range. Then once you add in the regeneration for the hybrid you really don’t see the glow.

You can see it on this picture I took at Laguna Seca back in 08.

DailyTurismo > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 17:46

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Muddier too! The last time I was at Sarthe was for the 2008 LeMans Classic — great event, perfect for photo shoots, and the rotating car schedule means you aren’t just taking pics of the same 20 cars for 24 hrs. It is an every-other-year thing, so they will do it in 2016.

Stef Schrader > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 18:19

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Well, there’s your problem.

Stef Schrader > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 18:26

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<3

‘Murica.

Stef Schrader > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 18:26

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<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Stef Schrader > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 18:28

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Not an unpopular opinion. This looks great.

Stef Schrader > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 18:30

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{ drooooooool }

Tell me about the fence thing. The few opportunities I had to take a few shots were 10000% hampered by fences and other bits. I went to the meeting for a photo vest, but never had enough time to drop in and use it. :o( Too much goin’ on. Glad you were able to get into all the places I wanted to, though!

Stef Schrader > ScoobsMcGee 06/17/2015 at 18:31

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Pretty sure it’s a Lambo, dude.

;o)

Stef Schrader > ChrisGTOTT 06/17/2015 at 18:34

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Gaaaah, that’s cool. Pretty genius, too.

ProjectWHaT > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 19:03

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What were your shutter speeds and focal lengths for those panning shots and what was your ISO for those night shots?

Máté Petrány > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 19:13

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Nice job Robert!

JMoney > 904 GTS 06/17/2015 at 19:34

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I wonder if Toyota will win a race this year.

chaozbandit > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 19:39

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Amazing shots! I am super jelly, my A6000/210mm just doesn’t seem to have this kind of reach when shooting fast cars aha. Glad to see you enjoyed the race! Favourite sounding car? My pick goes to the Astons (but it might be the art car bias talking).

bre92ser > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 19:41

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Read today that they were running with the hybrid system completely disabled. I sure hope a full year of development gets this car on pace with the others.

RallyWrench > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 19:47

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Lovely, lovely photos, I finally had time to go through them. Thanks again for sharing. I would happily pay you for frame-worthy poster-size prints of a couple of the sunset prototype shots, even with your logo. Any chance that’s possible? They’re just amazing, and summarize in a single image everything I love about endurance racing.

bre92ser > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 19:47

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Great shot!

bre92ser > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 19:49

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‘Merica!

bre92ser > Mhart27 06/17/2015 at 19:54

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A friend and I are already making plans. If all goes as planned, i’m in. I would likely have my transportation arranged separately, and camp; but setting up an on-site Oppo/Jalop get-together would be awesome.

904 GTS > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 20:09

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Correct - the car also needs to take the checker. Therefore, cars that had ran into problems are worked on despite many laps lost, if still classifiable, just to be able to complete the last lap.

904 GTS > JMoney 06/17/2015 at 20:36

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Frankly, I’ll be very surpriesed if Toyota will do well, after seeing their liesurly pace at Le Mans in comparison to both flying Porsche as well as Audi cars. As obviously witnessed last Saturday and Sunday in Le Mans, Toyota has not even updated their WEC Championship-winning pair from last year, as Audi did.

So it appears, Toyota decided to put their efforts into their NEW CAR they are building to 2016 LM & WEC Regulations, as Audi is doing as well.

Only Porsche came into this season with a BRAND NEW car, therefore also Le Mans, as was the announced plan at the outset. Surely some perliminery parameters had already been agreed upon by ACO and FiA on the 2016 regs prior Porsche building this year’s challenger. Thus one would think they were already incorporated those into this years car, so P AG will not have to build yet another TOTALLY NEW car to those 2016-and-beyond regs cominf into effect.

904 GTS > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 20:49

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Albeit quite experienced, 100% driver’s error, apparently. How devastating for ALL involved, that happening exactly 45 minutes from the end after a brilliant 23 hour 15 minute effort, especially when that team was __ LEADING the Class by F O U R L A P S __ ...

ChrisGTOTT > Stef Schrader 06/17/2015 at 20:53

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From what I know it’s a feature they borrowed from F1. Fully enclosing the rotors and metering the cooling air keeps them at peak efficiency even with the long straights at LeMans.

904 GTS > Clay_T 06/17/2015 at 21:06

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Read an EXCELLENT ARTICLE in AutoSport by Gary Watkins (long time member of the sports car commuinity, thus an excellent observer and reporter), about the NISSAN effort. He mentions NISSAN team, unable to harvest energy for their non-working hybrid system in the rear 9thus also not retard the car more), those originally intended to race with front brakes thus got very much overwhelmed. Since more braking power was needed, the team abandoned not only their smaller front wheels to fit larger brakes but also the specially developed for the car tires, further complicating their lives, ending up running Audi’s rear tires at higher pressures...

904 GTS > 904 GTS 06/17/2015 at 21:18

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A VERY RARE photo from PORSCHE Racing Department in Weissach (where normally pics are PROHIBITED, for obvious reasons) at a start of 919 build-up. In the center is the BARE driver’s compartment, which is also the MOST IMPORTANT PART of the whole 919, as basically everything else attaches to it - the front structure, the engine with gearbox, side tunnels for coolers, the car’s full length floor and finally, those aero body components to make the final car.

904 GTS > ChrisGTOTT 06/17/2015 at 21:29

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In ‘08, R8 brake proportioning, from front to rear, was driver adjustable. When engineers saw differences in brake temperatures, they instructed the driver to make an adjustment. Some time drivers just did not do it right on the first try. But, eventually, even when set correctly, those fronts would glow a bit more than rears.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > 904 GTS 06/17/2015 at 21:45

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I’d be curious to know what exactly it is that breaks in a transmission like that. Is it bearing failure? Ground gears?

BaconSandwich is tasty. > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 21:51

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I love the electroluminescent numbering on the side of a few of those cars.

Great pics.

904 GTS > BaconSandwich is tasty. 06/17/2015 at 22:04

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Predominantly, it’s the gearbox’s internal shifting mechanism that gives the most trouble - gears or bearings are normally not affected. Sometime, until they are fully developed, bear box cases and differential / final drive access plates could be cracking or braking as well.

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:07

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McDreamy gah!

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:08

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Would’ve been *very slightly* more epic if this baby was infront.

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:09

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1... 2... 3... #hellaflushyo

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:09

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Let’s get hyped, let’s get hyped! Turn the engine sound—

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:10

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Just slap it hard and the signal’s gonna go back.

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:14

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One of these sucked more than the other. Trust me, it wasn’t Nissan.

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:15

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This team is a Hero Team.

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:16

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Patrick Dempsey you’ve gotta do a Grey’s Anatomy but with a car racing theme.

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:19

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Had Dodge not stopped their factory effort the Viper would have been in the Pro sub-division. 2016 would have been far more epic with the Three American Supercars running around Le Mans.

SubieNick > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:22

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You know how when you open 5 porn vids and get thru 3 and ffwd the rest thinking it was all too much and you may watch the rest later. This was like that, except I bookmarked this and came back to it 3 time to save more pictures. Holy F these are beautiful!!!

Wheelerguy > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:25

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[insert Ford GTE here]

Lyle Petersminkle > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:27

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In 20-30 years from now, I wouldn’t be surprised if they used that term and looked upon this generation as fondly as we look back on the 80s and early 90s.

Hot Takes Salesman > Lyle Petersminkle 06/17/2015 at 22:34

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Both generations of sports cars have 1,000+ hp and amazing speed. I think you're right.

Hot Takes Salesman > RWS Motorsport 06/17/2015 at 22:36

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And don’t forget Porsche’s 918 Spyder- 919 Hybrid naming scheme. It’s not just for marketing- the 918 is pretty much made out of racing technology, from the LMP2 V8 to the hybrid systems. It’s trickle-down tech at its finest.

ChrisGTOTT > 904 GTS 06/18/2015 at 00:10

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Driver adjustable brake biasing was around long before that, but that is not what is going on in the image I posted. If you look closely you can actually see a spot where the rotor isn’t completely obscured and it’s glowing nicely there.

See this page for more info. http://www.mulsannescorner.com/audir10-3.html It only makes sense Audi further improved on this technology with successive cars like the R15, R18 and now the current R18 hybrid Quattro.

Sky Higa > RWS Motorsport 06/18/2015 at 01:55

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Slow, but probably the best sounding LMp1-H cars.

Sky Higa > Wheelerguy 06/18/2015 at 01:58

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Well, at least the Toyota’s weren’t being lapped by the LMP2 cars.

RWS Motorsport > Sky Higa 06/18/2015 at 03:05

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Cant say no to a big N/A V8. Made up for the Audis whispering past that’s for sure.

RWS Motorsport > Sky Higa 06/18/2015 at 03:05

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Or complained about by LMP2 drivers for holding them up through the corners...